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HollyShocker 2inthestink
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Marvin Narville wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Zero Audier wrote:I'm getting tired of people talking about this. Just hire some dam mercs with all those iskies you made from mining  . Whilst I do not agree with the whining going on about it, the fact remains that the bumper incurs no cost for his actions and a cost is required to stop it. In fact the bumper profits in that he gains a killright and insurance payout. For ZERO risk. Let's be true to our game if nothing else. If we are to do anything - stop the NPC corp hiding so he can be at least wardecced. Wouldn't this also allow for Miners hiding in NPC corps to be war decced? The most likely outcome here is that since James 315 is at least nominally aware of game mechanics, he'd simply utilize dec shields, and perhaps utilize free services listed elsewhere on these fine forums to trap said miners in perma-war decs. The miners on the other hand, by and large being less savvy in terms of these nuances, (i'm not saying all miners, but lets be honest, lots of them) would likely just end up griefing themselves twice as hard. Not that I disagree with any of it mind you, if it results in more pvp under any circumstances, I wholeheartedly endorse it. Oh my, it's like the highsec mechanics allow people to avoid pvp.
Yes becuase this has pvp written all over it....well goofwaffle pvp any how. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:38:00 -
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Tesal wrote:Why another post on James 315? The OP is playing right into his hand by making another post about this. Miner tears on the forums will only embolden him even more.
Most likely an order alt trying to draw attention to the whole thing. My guess is its not going well for them. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:41:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:(we can argue "counter" ofc but i think you get what i'm saying) If you don't want to be bumped, either increase the mass of your ship or move out of the way. How is that a difficult counter to understand? There are probably other counters as well, like interposing another ship or something. Saying bumping has no counter is stupid. It's almost like miners don't bother using the grey matter between their ears. You know, I think miners just might be the worst people in EVE because they clog up the petition system, whine incessantly, and actually don't even play the game if all the AFK claims are true. What terrible people.
you dont mine do you? Or have never been bumped while mining. If so you would not have made this staement. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:44:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:Counter 1 = Orbit the damn roid as close as possible. Amazing. Wait, mining barges can orbit? Counter 2 = Probe gravimetric site and mine away. Oh you don't have a clue about probing? Also what are gravimetric sites? I am not surprised... Counter 3 = Go to a less ******** system. You don't "have to" mine with the rest of the herd you know. Effort, right?
Again more bad advice from someone who has not been bumped while mining....counter 2/3 are viable counter one was poor advice. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:52:00 -
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Nothing is stoping gankers from ganking. If they want to keep it up then let them. No mechanic has changed it or stoped it. Gank away |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:59:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:shadowhearth Eto wrote:stuff
I want to apologize in adavance. .
Yes....yes you should. Do you really believe that this minor bumping and ganking is effecting prices? |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
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Posted - 2012.10.30 16:07:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Anslo wrote:Not the statement, the fact that miners take abuse. See, that's what gets me. Here we're playing a PvP sandbox game and we have a subset of "players" (one wonders why we keep up the pretense, they're actually robots) who "take" abuse. Given that we're: A. Playing a video game B. Playing a PvP game C. Playing a sandbox game I have to ask why anyone is forced to "take abuse"? I have no pity, whatsoever, for people who consider themselves "victims" in a video game.
Because someone is taken advantage of regardless of real life or in game doesnt make it their fault. Miners are placed at a disadvantage from the jump. They have sp set to indy not pvp and the ships are indy ships not pvp.
Just because they are placed at this disadvantage doesnt mean they asked or deserved to be ganked. Yes some people dont fit correctly but there are people who do and there are people that take the extra steps and they still fall prey to the more organised gank teams.
People come here and try to place all the miners in the same catagory to justify their own ignorance and bias and hatred for a type of game play they dont like or understand.
This type of of ignorance can be found in abundance in real life and not just in this game. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
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Posted - 2012.10.30 19:40:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Anslo wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Anslo wrote:Andski wrote:yeah I remember that scene in 300 where King Leonidas whined to the devs about the Persians unfairly extorting him and griefing him Nice twist. But really, Leonidas was free to kick the Persian's arse without getting Concordokkened, with all of them in the same corp, same place, and ready to go. We need to give miners the same 'kick' ability  (THIS IS VELDSPAR!) I don't know if you remember, but the Spartans at Thermopylae actually all died. That seems pretty similar to CONCORD to me. Yet they came back and continued to dominate afterwards. Unfortunately, no, the spartans did not come back from the dead. Funnily enough though, that does happen in EVE So um what was your point again
Not to sound critical but that battle at Thermopylae started with over 7000 greeks. The 300 that stayed behind was a rear guard action so the rest could escape. I know bc its on tv or the movies or written on the web most of you basement dwelling trolls thinks it has to be true but its not.
Just like these forums.... Bc someone wrote it doesnt make it valid |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
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Posted - 2012.10.30 21:12:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:They have sp set to indy not pvp and the ships are indy ships not pvp. That's no one's fault but the miner's. HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People come here and try to place all the miners in the same catagory to justify their own ignorance and bias and hatred for a type of game play they dont like or understand.
This type of of ignorance can be found in abundance in real life and not just in this game. This is awesome. It's almost as if you're trying to paint miners as RL minorities. The difference is that one is playing a video game by choice and the other has to live it.
No this is not the miners fault. They cant fly a skiff unless they train for it. Do you want them to mine in a battleship?
Seems the people that are anti-miner dont want the miner to have a fair chance. They want to come here and say oh you can do this or you can do that or you should have fit this way or that.
Bottom line is the miner has to train SP in mining to be effective. They have to fly a skiff to mine. Some people want to be able to take advantage of their disadvantage. If they wanted FAIR pvp they would be in low/null where poeple are skilled and geared and fitted for pvp, not mining.
It would seem logical that MOST not all but most gankers are people that fail at pvp but still feel the need to be superior to someone, and that someone has to be the miner by process of elimination.
I blame CCP for not giving the miners the options or tools to field a fit that would allow a decent chance to fight back not just hope concord gets there in time. |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy
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Posted - 2012.10.30 22:29:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:I blame CCP for not giving the miners the options or tools to field a fit that would allow a decent chance to fight back not just hope concord gets there in time. You're saying that people who train mining skills should be allowed to use weapons based on those mining skills? Or even that CCP should introduce a new mining barge that not only has an enormous EHP tank, but also has the fitting attributes for guns, drones, mining lasers and tanks? And you wonder why miners are mocked?
-100 comprehension |
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